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olemon > 02-10-2019, 02:01 PM
Definitely Studio One!
Getting settled in the new surroundings and finally getting the home-studio set up and working again. Before the move I had only started one project in SO, but then switched back to familiar Sonar to produce a couple of tunes - one for a friend and one for a paying client actually. (I know. I know. Cool right? Don't worry, I still have a day job.)
In order to get back to learning SO, I downloaded some tracks from Mixing Secrets to practice with...
http://discussion.cambridge-mt.com/showt...?tid=25589
...and I just finished tracking and comping vocals for that old SO project I started all those months ago.
I've opted for a single display with SO - took me a while to get used to the GUI - but having the Mixer (Console) on a second display like I had with Sonar doesn't seem necessary. That's probably because I have a Faderport 8 now, that thing is awesome, but also because of the way the SO windows and tools are arranged/fixed. I don't think SO's GUI is as flexible as Sonar's, but so be it.
I picked up a rather inexpensive summing mixer and thanks to YouTube tutorials I've been able to set that up in SO. There are lots of tutorials for SO, free and otherwise (Groove3).
I mentioned comping, but holy smokes, the Layers (Take Lanes) functionality in SO is so much easier than in Sonar. The takes don't get split if you stop recording at different points on the timeline, for example, and to select clips for the comp you just highlight them and voila! One thing I did find that works best for me though, is not to have the last take promoted to the track. When I finished comping I bounced the comped audio to a new track and then used Ctrl+M to apply Melodyne to the clips (Events?) and Ctrl+B to bounce them. Kind of like Sonar's Region FX workflow. Melodyne's working well in SO.
Anyway, I haven't been around here much. I see the Cakewalk Forum is closed now. I've popped in to the CbB site a few times. Posted there once or twice I think. It's kind of odd. I rarely visit the PreSonus forum either. Still in limbo I guess. The journey continues.... -
RE: Probably Studio One
bapu > 02-10-2019, 05:01 PM
I'm liking SO4P more and more. Still do the occasional CbB project though. -
RE: Probably Studio One
synkrotron > 02-12-2019, 09:46 AM
(02-11-2019, 11:45 AM)olemon Wrote: I'm not sure what would happen if I tried to launch Sonar or CbB these days. I should check that out.
Every time I try to start SONAR a dialogue box pops up asking to log into Command Centre to check activation status.
I think that the servers are down now anyway but, out of curiosity I clicked on the "click here" button and Command Centre failed to log in.
I then closed the dialogue box and SONAR started anyway, not in demo mode or anything, so, yes, it still works but I can't see the point in using it any more as I have tried Cakewalk (by BandLab) and it seems to be okay. Up to now anyway, and not withstanding any of my own personal issues with it, that probably wouldn't apply to anyone else.
If you are making good headway with Studio One then I really wouldn't bother, unless you wish to open an old project with a view to trying to port it over to Studio One.
cheers
andy
Edit:
I tried logging into Command Centre again, just now, and it works fine. So ignore the strike through text. -
RE: Probably Studio One
tenfoot > 02-12-2019, 11:22 AM
I just got a new computer for my studio and reinstalled all of my Software, including the last version of Sonar and command centre. It worked perfectly and shows as activated and owned. I too mostly work in Studio One now, but occasionaly need to access an old Sonar project. -
RE: Probably Studio One
olemon > 03-13-2019, 02:51 AM
I launched SPlat the other day - wasn't comfortable with SO's Project Page, wasn't sure about creating mp3's - thought I'd try working in SPlat the way I used to by importing and mastering a wave file in a new project and exporting as an mp3.
But I'm so used to the Faderport 8 now, once SPlat opened I was fumblin, mumblin, stumblin. I went right back to SO.
What I've decided to do is export the SO 24 bit Mixdown and then import that wave file into a new SO Song. Trim the stereo wave, get rid of extra bars, adjust fades, and then add that Song to a SO Project Page where I can master it and use the Digital Release to create an mp3.
I tried just going from the Song (the mix) directly to a Project - which is very slick for going back and tweaking the mix - but I couldn't trim the wave file to my liking.
Anyway, that's where I'm at
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RE: Probably Studio One
synkrotron > 03-14-2019, 04:39 PM
Hi Scott
Can I ask, why are you creating an MP3 file? Is it a requirement for uploading to ReverbNation? I have an account there but do not use is any longer so cannot remember.
The reason I ask is, I honestly cannot remember the last time I created an MP3 file. I always render to WAV and then upload that to either SoundCloud or Bandcamp. Bandcamp is great because it creates MP3 files for users to download, if they wish.
Just curious...
cheers
andy -
RE: Probably Studio One
olemon > 03-16-2019, 01:52 PM
(03-14-2019, 04:39 PM)synkrotron Wrote: Hi Scott
Can I ask, why are you creating an MP3 file? Is it a requirement for uploading to ReverbNation? I have an account there but do not use is any longer so cannot remember.
The reason I ask is, I honestly cannot remember the last time I created an MP3 file. I always render to WAV and then upload that to either SoundCloud or Bandcamp. Bandcamp is great because it creates MP3 files for users to download, if they wish.
Just curious...
cheers
andy
It's been so long since I released anything, I was thinking Reverbnation only accepted mp3's. But I just checked and they accept wave files too - not sure if that's the case with free accounts though. I have some songs at Soundcloud, but I think those were mp3's also. Could be wrong about that. It was a few years back.
I guess I need to check.
Thanks for asking, Andy! -
RE: Probably Studio One
bapu > 03-16-2019, 03:31 PM
Soundcloud accepts 24/48K wavs. I'm pretty sure they process to mp3s for playback. Our tests by Daryl, James and me, seem to prove it's slightly better to upload 24/48 wav files than mp3s.
BandLab on the other utter futzed up my 24/48 wav. I've made the decision to not upload finished mixes to BandLab. -
RE: Probably Studio One
synkrotron > 03-18-2019, 01:20 PM
(03-16-2019, 01:52 PM)olemon Wrote: It's been so long since I released anything, I was thinking Reverbnation only accepted mp3's. But I just checked and they accept wave files too - not sure if that's the case with free accounts though. I have some songs at Soundcloud, but I think those were mp3's also. Could be wrong about that. It was a few years back.
I guess I need to check.
Thanks for asking, Andy!
Hi Scott,
At SoundCloud you can upload either lossless or lossy file formats although they recommend the former. At SoundCloud the file that is then available for download is exactly the same as the file that you uploaded, whereas Bandcamp gives the person downloading the option to choose a couple of different file types, either lossless or lossy.
cheers
andy -
RE: Probably Studio One
synkrotron > 03-18-2019, 01:28 PM
(03-16-2019, 03:31 PM)bapu Wrote: I'm pretty sure they process to mp3s for playback. Our tests by Daryl, James and me, seem to prove it's slightly better to upload 24/48 wav files than mp3s.
Yes, I believe that the streaming quality is a mere 128kbps regardless of the file you upload.
Regarding the slightly better quality of stream when uploading a WAV file is due to it being a single conversion process, whereas if you do a WAV to MP3 conversion yourself, and then upload that to SoundCloud, it is processed yet again and that is why it might sound not quite as good.
So, providing you have a reasonable upload speed with your ISP then always upload a lossless file.
Quote:BandLab on the other utter futzed up my 24/48 wav. I've made the decision to not upload finished mixes to BandLab.
Oh dear. What happened there?
Mainly I only download 320kbps MP3 files of albums that I have purchased as I believe that my ears are not good enough to hear much of a difference.
On the odd occasion that I download a WAV I can't say that I have noticed any problems.
cheers
andy -
RE: Probably Studio One
olemon > 04-05-2019, 01:56 PM
I published my first song with Studio One!
What I learned is that there is an mp3 export from the Song Page, not just from the Project Page, so I'm back to the familiar SPlat workflow of mixing in one project and mastering in another. If I was releasing a cd on my own then maybe I'd set that up in Studio One's Project Page, but I prefer to work with the Song Page.
Regarding mp3's, for free accounts, Reverbnation only allows mp3 uploads. It looks like Soundcloud allows wav file uploads with free accounts.
Anyway, that's the deal. -
RE: Probably Studio One
synkrotron > 04-05-2019, 03:38 PM
(04-05-2019, 01:56 PM)olemon Wrote: I published my first song with Studio One!
Nice one
Quote:Regarding mp3's, for free accounts, Reverbnation only allows mp3 uploads.
Well, that's a shame, and for that reason only I would never use ReverbNation again. I have three tracks up there but I haven't updated my page for getting on three years now.
Quote:It looks like Soundcloud allows wav file uploads with free accounts.
Yes, and when uploading to SoundCloud always upload a WAV file.